Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site decwrl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!mcnc!decvax!decwrl!rhea!vaxuum!dyer From: dyer@vaxuum.DEC (Official Mail of the 1984 Olympics) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Reagan and Truth Message-ID: <7280@decwrl.UUCP> Date: Sat, 21-Apr-84 23:34:08 EST Article-I.D.: decwrl.7280 Posted: Sat Apr 21 23:34:08 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 23-Apr-84 00:58:54 EST Organization: DEC Engineering Network Lines: 74 Re: Reagan and Truth___________________________________________________________ [I seem to be having some difficulty posting this. Maybe it'll go through *this* time!] > First, Mr. Dyer, how about giving us a documented sample of Regean's lies. > No generalizations spouted off second hand from some disgruntled prof at > your school, just hard evidence. First, Mr. Wheeler, I'm not in school. I'm from a poor family and I can't afford it. Reagan's across-the-board cuts in financial aid have resulted in a loss of aid for everyone, the "truly needy" included. Reagan maintains that these cuts don't effect the "truly needy." Lie number one. You can't seriously believe that Reagan has a grip on reality! My God, there's even a book out called "There He Goes Again: Ronald Reagan's Reign of Error," which documents quite a few of his lies. Surely you've seen some of the articles written in political periodicals that mention Reagan's disregard for truth; I've seen at least five! You want some examples? o Most people remember a certain scene in the Carter/Reagan debates when Reagan blurted out the immortal phrase, "there you go again;" calling Carter a liar. Carter had said that Reagan was opposed to Medicaid in 1965. Reagan said that Carter had his facts wrong. Carter did not. Reagan lied. o Who can possibly forget Reagan's first "White Paper," re- leased in Februrary of 1981; the report that showed a commu- nist under every rock in Central America? The conclusions of this paper have been shown to have little support from the evidence supplied to back it up. Reagan ended up ad- mitting that the paper didn't prove what it claims to prove, yet he maintained that the paper's conclusions were valid. o In his 1976 campaign book, Reagan stated that recession and its attendant unemployment would be a necessary step for an economic recovery. In his 1980 campaign, he said that he would never use unemployment to improve the economy. 1982 and 1983 proved otherwise. o There are a number of cases where Reagan has tried to block or gut bills as they went through congress, then made a pub- lic/media event out of approving the same bills if it turns out to be politically expedient. Anyone who follows the news closely knows this. One specific example is the Civil Rights Act: After trying very hard to take the teeth out of this bill (it was up for renewal), Reagan invited civil rights leaders and, of course, the press to witness him signing the bill as he spoke of the great strides for civil rights that he was all for. Need more? Buy the "Reign of Error" book. Good stuff. > Thank you for your cooperation, and I am sure you have not paid one whit of > attention to what I am saying. So, go right on with your paranoid diatribes. > I have the feeling that if God were a Republican, you gentlemen would vote > for Satan. I'm trying to envision a Jehovah/Bush ticket. It isn't easy for me, though based on Mr. Wheeler's defense of everything Reagan does, it appears that he may believe that Reagan *is* God, or at least chosen by God. His op- ponent then, by defintion, must be Satan! On what grounds, Mr. Wheeler, do you make your statement that I would vote for Satan if the Republicans ran him? You know practically nothing about me; in particular, you know absolutely nothing about my views on partisian pol- itics (which are not very hospitable). Are you so closed-minded, Mr. Wheeler, that you cannot envision an individual with (heaven forbid!) independent thoughts? You are so quick to assume that I'm anti-Republican to the extent that I would overlook the merits of an individual who happens to be in the Republican party. I'll have you know that I tried to register Republican in 1980 to vote for John Anderson. Do you think that I'm criticizing Reagan solely because he's a Repub- lican? If so, *you* are the one who isn't paying "one whit of attention to what I am saying." I criticize Reagan on the basis of his deeds. I criticized Carter on the same grounds. Believe it or not, I even criticize Soviet leader- ship! Gosh, if I'm not a Republican or a Democrat or a Communist, I must not exist, huh? <_Jym_> | Jym Dyer | Nashua, NH | ...{allegra|decvax}!decwrl!rhea!vaxuum!dyer |