Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: $Revision: 1.6.2.13 $; site uiucdcs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!liberte From: liberte@uiucdcs.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Some Questions - (nf) Message-ID: <29200134@uiucdcs.UUCP> Date: Sun, 22-Apr-84 19:36:00 EST Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.29200134 Posted: Sun Apr 22 19:36:00 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 24-Apr-84 07:54:22 EST References: <698@pyuxa.UUCP> Lines: 72 Nf-ID: #R:pyuxa:-69800:uiucdcs:29200134:000:3851 Nf-From: uiucdcs!liberte Apr 22 18:36:00 1984 #R:pyuxa:-69800:uiucdcs:29200134:000:3851 uiucdcs!liberte Apr 22 18:36:00 1984 /**** uiucdcs:net.politics / ea!mwm / 2:41 pm Apr 19, 1984 ****/ Fair enough. I'd like to try something different too. Since I can't think of anything that I think would be better, I keep trying to get what we've got now improved (in my opinion, naturally). Can you think of something better? If so, TELL US! /* ---------- */ I would tend to agree that the basic framework of the US Constitution is not a half bad job. There are many significant merits. However, the writers could not anticipate all the abuses it would be used to justify. It also lacks in its ability to cope with today's situation. There is always the provision for holding a new Constitutional Convention, but even I would be afraid of the consequences given the "powers that be" that would be dominant factors in such an action. Some of the things I would like to see: Participative Democracy - none of this "representative" stuff which is not really representative and so easily abused. I want people to have a direct say in policy matters through referendum. Of course, it takes an educated populace for this to work. But then it is to the advantage of everyone to encourage education everywhere, rather than to rely on those smart looking representatives. Participative Democracy would do the general, policy making work of the legislative branch. Professional Management - If managers were hired as in a business to carry out the policies voted on by the populace, and were subject to removal or transfer based on the quality of the work done, then things might work alot better. These managers, a hierarcy of them, would be like representatives in doing the job they were hired to do. But the big difference is that there are no terms of office. The hierarcy probably should be hired from the bottom up with the people hiring the lowest level, local managers. Professional Management would be the executive branch and act on the policies of the nation as a whole - the people. Justice - the most important branch of government - needs to be heavily reworked. Judges must be the most highly educated (mind, body, spirit) individuals we can find, for they uphold the law - they are the highest-level interpreters of the law. (The people are the final interpreters of the law - they decide whether it is law for them.) Judges should perhaps be elected but with very rigorous qualifications, and as long as the qualifications are maintained, serve for life. This is just the political/justice system. The economic system is another thing entirely, but the two must work together. Notice that the US Constitution does not say much one way or the other on the economics front. People associate capitalism with democracy, but 1) other combinations with socialism and communism are possible and 2) what we have now is neither capitalism nor democracy in the pure sense, but moving towards monopoly and tyranny with some socialism mixed in. For the sake of argument, I believe in individual free enterprise and collective socialism. That is, private ownership of what you yourself create, produce and purchase with freedom to choose, but national ownership of corporations with national selection of management. If you have something worthy of a business, take it up with the business experts. If you dont like their decision, take it up with the Justice department. Everyone selected to work in the corporation would benefit from the success of the business through profit sharing. Everyone would benefit from a successful business through better products and less waste. So these are some of my ideas. They are not worked out and lots of loose ends need to be put together or pulled apart. Have at it. Daniel LaLiberte, U of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign, Computer Science {moderation in all things - including moderation}