Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 (Tek) 9/26/83; site shark.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!floyd!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!orca!shark!chrism From: chrism@shark.UUCP Newsgroups: net.religion,net.politics Subject: Politics, religion and book-burning Message-ID: <644@shark.UUCP> Date: Fri, 23-Mar-84 03:04:43 EST Article-I.D.: shark.644 Posted: Fri Mar 23 03:04:43 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 25-Mar-84 10:15:38 EST Sender: chrism@shark.UUCP Organization: Tektronix, Wilsonville OR Lines: 43 (MM = Moral Majority) >I don't think that people should condemn the MM's involvement in politics >before they realize that the groups they oppose are doing the same thing >(and using the same methods) with their ideas. And I think the news media >definitely biases itself against the MM. If you think that all Christians >who see an application of biblical principles for society are "Falwellites" >think again. Political involvement works both ways. Jesse Jackson is an example of a leftist who is strongly influenced by biblical principles. Some of his rallies look like old-time revivals. Interestingly, the press seems to ignore this aspect of his character. If Jackson were, in contrast, a far-right candidate (and possibly white??) I'm sure he'd be pinned to the proverbial cross for his political-religious mixing. However, since 'Liberal' religious institutions and people often have goals congruent with politically active secular types, there is a marked tendency to 'forgive' their religious motivation. This is called expediency, although I agree its often more than a little hypocritical. I'm reminded, as an example, of the Marxist guerrila leader and the leftist Catholic priest fighting side by side in Central America. >Speaking of book burning and censorship, Liberals have been praciticing it >for years under the guise of "instilling proper values in our children" and >"removing stereotypes and religious influences". We part company here. The democratic secular state tries to promote a scientific education; in principle it leaves religions training to private homes and places of worship. The value of this approach may be judged by its results - in the few hundred years of the ascendancy of secularism (what you call Liberalism, I guess), man's life has improved immeasurably. None of this was due to religious relevations; it came about through science and its application. An approach of this sort 'ignores' religion - it doesn't actively suppress it. It simply provides a set of tools for critical thinking. Granted, this critical thinking often has the effect of letting people see through percieved inconsistencies in some religions and so adopt a secular philosophy. This is far cry from book burning or censorship, however. >People should learn how to think rather than be told what to think. I could not agree more. Chris Minson