Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site fortune.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!floyd!harpo!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!fortune!rpw3 From: rpw3@fortune.UUCP Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: No willing Atheists? - (nf) Message-ID: <2873@fortune.UUCP> Date: Wed, 28-Mar-84 07:05:28 EST Article-I.D.: fortune.2873 Posted: Wed Mar 28 07:05:28 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 29-Mar-84 05:39:01 EST Sender: notes@fortune.UUCP Organization: Fortune Systems, Redwood City, CA Lines: 20 #R:ssc-vax:-1600:fortune:21900016:000:769 fortune!rpw3 Mar 28 02:19:00 1984 Tom Ruschak uses the term non-theist as if it were the same as atheist. It isn't. From the point of view of an actual non-theistic perspective, such as Buddhism, atheism is a form of theism, as David Norris implies, since it makes as assertion that "there is no X". While the agnostic is not convinced whether to believe the theist or the atheist, the non-theist simply says that the entire issue of an external "thing" misses the point. Because everything is impermanent, all of that energy expended in grasping towards (or away from) some presumed permanent reference just creates more suffering. Rob Warnock UUCP: {sri-unix,amd70,hpda,harpo,ihnp4,allegra}!fortune!rpw3 DDD: (415)595-8444 USPS: Fortune Systems Corp, 101 Twin Dolphin Drive, Redwood City, CA 94065