Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site decwrl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!floyd!harpo!decvax!decwrl!rhea!mrvax!ddb From: ddb@mrvax.DEC (DAVID DYER-BENNET MRO1-2/L14 DTN 231-4076) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: True christians Message-ID: <6589@decwrl.UUCP> Date: Thu, 29-Mar-84 10:06:40 EST Article-I.D.: decwrl.6589 Posted: Thu Mar 29 10:06:40 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 30-Mar-84 03:13:38 EST Organization: DEC Engineering Network Lines: 19 The current crop of born-agains, or whatever the term is ("Sorry, I'm color-blind in that range myself") asks us to accept them as true Christians and reject the established churches (particularly the Catholic church). I understand their eagerness to do so -- it's pretty hard to defend many of the things done by the established churches over the years. Unfortunately, I can't see any way a non-Christian can decide which, if any, is the real Christianity. A Christian presumably makes this decision by seeing which ones follow his idea of Christianity, which he believes is provided him by God (his idea, that is). I have philosophical problems with this approach, based on the human tendency towards self-delusion -- but in any case, valid or not it isn't available to me! I can't claim to accept anyone as christian who claims to be -- but if I had to decide between the Catholic church and the unorganized evangelicals, the Catholics would win hands down by historical precedent. -- David Dyer-Bennet -- {...}!decwrl!rhea!mrvax!ddb