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Date: Thu, 5-Apr-84 11:24:12 EST
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Posted: Thu Apr  5 11:24:12 1984
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   A couple of quick thoughts

              FAITH is not NEEDED if something can be explained by
              reason and logic and observation, i.e. the truth or reality
              of its existence.

              The existence of God is often proved by "reductio ad absurdum"
              a valid technique of logic.

              Look guys we can't re-write the early Church Fathers works on the
              net.  Even the compelling arguments would take too long.
              At least try to read some of them.  Most of the atheistic
              objections are made by contradicting the statements of the theist
              at least make some attempts at building a formal argument for
              atheism, instead of simply attacking a theists rational on the
              net.  There is much literature on the existence of God but I know
              of very little on the NON-existence of God.  Tell us so that we
              may read it.

              On the Richard Simmons problem:
              I would take it as an event which tended to verify the existence
              of Richard Simmons.  Why extend it to prove that Simmons proves
              God??  You over extended the analogy.  BTW this is the problem
              the Church has with apparitions and miracles and therfore id very
              cautious in declaring them as valid.

              By the way  Faith is a gift from God freely given.

Cheers all.

           Vince