Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site opus.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!floyd!harpo!seismo!hao!cires!nbires!opus!rcd From: rcd@opus.UUCP Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: An Ex-Atheist Speaks Message-ID: <325@opus.UUCP> Date: Wed, 4-Apr-84 21:52:51 EST Article-I.D.: opus.325 Posted: Wed Apr 4 21:52:51 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 7-Apr-84 05:51:09 EST References: <633@pucc-h> Organization: NBI, Boulder Lines: 38 <> I suppose I could call my response "an ex-theist speaks", but... >A guy came to my room once to witness, >and my roommate and I not only ran him out of the room, but also went >to his room and tried to convert him to atheism! I hope THAT settles >any questions about the "devoutness" of my atheism... No, but it says something about your attitude toward people... > Now, one would think that this "God" would reward me for at least >trying... Not for trying in the sense you did it - sort of an attempt at a "30-day money-back guarantee" on God... >I finally prayed with an >honest heart "God, if you really exist, I need your help. Badly." The >result was fantastic, and I will swear by most anything you like that >I am not lying. Within 3 days, my emotional stability had been totally >restored and has not been seriously shaken since... Pretty shaky causality there. If things are bad enough, they're bound to get better - especially if you want them to. I'm not saying you're crazy; I'm saying that your mind is powerful. >Then I started praying and getting occasional results. Intermittent reinforcement is more effective than consistent reinforcement. Anyone with a background in behavioral psych care to fill in more? > Some of you are probably saying, "Nice story. So what?" First of >all, it is a true story, not a fable... It may well be. What the story seems to point out to me, far more than any possible significance of religious conversion, is the significance of becoming sincere with others and honest with yourself. When you get to college it's time to question the assumptions that you were brought up with. In some cases, this results in turning toward religion; in other cases, turning away. If a better person results, fine either way. -- Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile. {hao,ucbvax,allegra}!nbires!rcd