Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihuxi.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!floyd!harpo!ihnp4!ihuxi!walsh From: walsh@ihuxi.UUCP (B. Walsh) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Buddhist texts Message-ID: <849@ihuxi.UUCP> Date: Wed, 11-Apr-84 10:29:20 EST Article-I.D.: ihuxi.849 Posted: Wed Apr 11 10:29:20 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 13-Apr-84 01:20:38 EST References: <6992@decwrl.UUCP>, <846@ihuxi.UUCP> <7403@cornell.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 43 I will attempt to clarify my very brief statement of eastern vs. western values. The statement was very broad and general, because I cannot give a comprehensive explanation here, and I wanted to capture the essence of underlying principles in a nutshell. Ralph Johnson states: "Judaism has an extremely high regard for intellectual undertanding of Jewish scriptures, with an emphasis on obeying God" This is precisely why I said the main emphasis is on faith. The Jewish scriptures are filled with exhortations to be faithful. A high regard for understanding the scriptures is secondary to having the faith that they extoll. Obeying God of course requires faith in Him. R. J.: "Many eastern religions ... seem a-rational". That is the problem most westerners have; understanding eastern religions intellectually. Knowledge of reality is requisite for Hindus and Buddhists. Reality is different, however, in those religions. Westerners think flower arranging or other practices of Zen Buddhists are irrational: "What's the point?". To a Buddhist, western attachments are totally irrational. It all depends on your knowledge of reality. This is why knowledge is foremost in the eastern religions. There is also room for emotion; these are pragmatic religions and have something for every- one. Bhakti yoga is the yoga of devotion or love for the Hindu. Mahayana yaBuddhism is very emotional. It is also very interesting that these two are also the most popular of the respective religions. People are basically emotional beings and these religions recognize that, and so accomodate them with a vehicle that uses emotion. But still, under all that, the knowledge is necessary and that is why I said knowledge is foremost to them. By the way, the mind-control necessary for Hana yoga is highly regarded as it gets one beyond the apparent world of mind and body, which is temporary and therefore unimportant, and into the inner layers of the person and toward the Eternal. (A Hindu point of view). I do not intend to take any particular position; I'm merely pointing out different beliefs (they're not necessarily my own). So comments are welcome, I won't be offended! B. Walsh