Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihuxi.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!floyd!harpo!ihnp4!ihuxi!walsh From: walsh@ihuxi.UUCP (B. Walsh) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Buddhist texts Message-ID: <850@ihuxi.UUCP> Date: Wed, 11-Apr-84 12:49:27 EST Article-I.D.: ihuxi.850 Posted: Wed Apr 11 12:49:27 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 13-Apr-84 06:10:17 EST References: <6992@decwrl.UUCP>, <846@ihuxi.UUCP> <7403@cornell.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 30 In my previous reply to Ralph Johnson, I neglected some of his statements and will now address those: R. J.: "...westerners have a hard time understanding eastern religions. This is because the central premise of many of them is that life is bad, and must be escaped. ...we tend to think that life is wonderful and worth living..." I think here you're referring to Buddhism; the first of the Four Noble Truths in Buddhism is that life is filled with suffering. But, the other three noble truths go on to say what causes that suffering, suffering can be overcome, and how to overcome it. This is clearly not the same as saying "Life is bad." Don't all religions say there exists a problem, here's the cause, and here's how to overcome that problem? I mean, if life was perfectly wonderful without religion, we wouldn't need it. In the Bible, life is not depicted as a bed of roses. There is sin and suffering, but they can be overcome. In Hinduism, the everyday life can be unfulfilling to those who've reached a certain level; this causes suffering but can be overcome. In Buddhism, not seeing reality causes suffering, but can be overcome. If life was not worth living, these religions would not go about giving people means to overcome their problems. They would just have everyone kill themselves. But according to most religions, life becomes more wonderful if you prescribe to the religion. B. Walsh