Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles; site uokvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!we13!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!parsec!ctvax!uokvax!emjej From: emjej@uokvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Replies to Bickford/Sargent on Chris - (nfÞ Message-ID: <8300052@uokvax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 12-Apr-84 11:25:00 EST Article-I.D.: uokvax.8300052 Posted: Thu Apr 12 11:25:00 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 17-Apr-84 06:48:18 EST References: <2665@azure.UUCP> Lines: 26 Nf-ID: #R:azure:-266500:uokvax:8300052:000:1262 Nf-From: uokvax!emjej Apr 12 10:25:00 1984 #R:azure:-266500:uokvax:8300052:000:1262 uokvax!emjej Apr 12 10:25:00 1984 /***** uokvax:net.religion / pucc-h!aeq / 12:15 am Apr 8, 1984 */ The fact that there is strong evidence (one might call it compelling) for the efficacy of Christianity (as to other religions, I don't know), and yet many people don't believe it, indicates that those who DON'T believe are the ones being duped. I still don't understand why you consider "Christ changed my life" to be an unconvincing testimony; if someone's life was going nowhere but downhill before he accepted Christ, and Christ turned him around, that ought to be convincing. /* ---------- */ Sigh. One tires of pointing this out repeatedly, and hence I'll do it this one last time, even though it means abandoning the field to fallacious logic: the most that one can conclude from that sort of anecdotal evidence is that believing in *SOMETHING* (Ubizmo, Christ, Marx, the trans-Jovian Jelly Donut) in some cases changes people's lives. It doesn't seem that the object of belief, its validity, or current existence makes much difference; it is the belief that is significant--I suppose it gives those who need it a reason to slog through everyday life and a feeling of being in on something that matters (Ahura-Mazda vs. Ahriman, or the quest for the One Ring, etc.). James Jones