Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site iwlc6.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!we13!ihnp4!iwlc6!amigo From: amigo@iwlc6.UUCP (John Hobson) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Salvation (part 2) Message-ID: <133@iwlc6.UUCP> Date: Mon, 16-Apr-84 14:17:37 EST Article-I.D.: iwlc6.133 Posted: Mon Apr 16 14:17:37 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 17-Apr-84 07:49:53 EST Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 123 Let's go back, then, and try again. Only, this trip, no quite so recklessly: "When (from our point of view) God decided to become man," he chose to become incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the Virgin Mary. This time, we will avoid the pothole of assuming that the birth of Jesus is the beginning of a new departure in the way God works in the world. Let us say instead that it was the culmination of a whole series of transactions between God and Man--transactions by which the one, unchanging Mystery works toward building the New Jerusalem, the City of God. That sounds better already. It fits nicely with the history of the covenant, and it obviates the necessity of seeing Jesus as the sole transaction in which the Mystery is at work. All the earlier transactions, the covenants with Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses (if you want me to write a short theological essay on the history of the covenant, I will)--are true steps in the building of the City. The Incarnation is simply the supreme transaction. The death and resurrection of Jesus are the effective fulfillment of all that went before. Accordingly, we may now view the proclamation of the Gospel in a different light. In Jesus, God has made the ultimate transaction, after which no other transaction will ever be needed. God has, as it were, perfected a saving product, and he now proceeds to distribute it. This is good, too. It makes sense of the scandal of particularity we see in the covenant with Abraham: God particularizes salvation, first in Israel and finally in Jesus, precisely in order that he may universalize it. He cuts out everyone, just so he can eventually draw them in. We're holding the road fairly well. But how does the result of the final transaction fecome universal? How is the perfected product distributed to all? Well, in the first instance, this is accomplished by a fellowship of baptised people which is universal, for all men--by the one, holy, catholic (note the small "c") and apostolic Church, sent to proclaim everywhere the good news of Jesus' full, perfect and sufficient sacrifice, oblation and satisfaction for all offered on the cross. How, though, shall we deal with the problem which, last time around, eventually caused the crash? How do we get the perfected product to those born too soon, or too far away from the Holy Christian Chain Store? Let us try it this way: Let us say that, while the church is the normal outlet for the fruits of the transaction, it is obvious that the distributing operation of Jesus is not limited to the church. This has the virtue of having some scriptural and creedal foundation: After his death on the cross, and before his resurrection, he descends into hell, into the place of departed spirits. He goes and he preaches to the spirits in prison. He offers them an opportunity to accpt the free gift he has just perfected in the ultimate transaction. Good enough. That takes care of everyone who died before 29 AD--and without a single jerry-built limbo, at that. But what about the Eskimo in 50 AD who didn't even have an Eskimo's chance of getting preached to at all--who died in the frozen north while the church was still basking in the Mediterranean sunshine? What about all those poor souls who were too late for the early show and too early for the late one? Well, perhaps we can hold that the descent into hell was not meant to be taken as a single excursion, but as a perpetual visit. Maybe it should be taken to mean that Jesus is always there, continually offering his salvation to all who die without having heard it. This can be extended to include those who weere aware of the Church, but who were so repelled by the actions of the individual Christians they came across that they refused to consider it. If you aren't able to pick up your free gift at one of his franchised outlets during your lifetime, he will personally distribute his product door to dor after death. It's holding nicely. No limbos. Nobody left out. But what of the final question? What does it mean when we say that the souls of the departed will have a chance to accept or reject the free gift? The souls of the departed, if they exist in reality at all, are not human beings. A human being is body and soul; if you separate the two, you get a corpse and a ghost. Furthermore, in the tradition in which this usage of soul was most common, the sould after death was viewed as a poor, passive thing, incapable of doing or deciding anything. And worse yet, there is 2 Corinthians 5:10: "We must all appear before the judgement seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in the body, according to that which he has done, whether it be good or bad." Oh, oh. Things are beginning to sound as if we've got a front wheel out of balance. The argument is up to speed, but it's developing a shimmy. Perhaps if we push it a little harder, we can cure it. Suppose we try saying that the descent into hell means, not a standing order by which Jesus offers the benefits of his saving transaction to the souls of the dead, but rather a willingness on his part to take some of the "deeds done in the body"--things done while the people were still alive and, therefore, still people--as the equivalent of acceptance or rejection of the gift. That only makes it worse. Apparently both front wheels are in bad shape. On the one hand, we are slipping from theology into bookkeeping: We are now obliged to work out a system for converting purely natural earthly deeds into acceptance of Christ. On the other hand, that turns out to be a tricky proposition. If we're not careful, we will steer ourselves right back into the same situation that caused the awful pileup on the last trip. We are on the verge of saying once again that it is morality, not mercy, is the key to the City. Of course, we might try to work up some way of saying that the "good deeds done in the body" are to be taken, not as good deeds which have power to earn salvation, but as evidence of a willingness to accept mercy. How about a system for converting the coin of morality into the scrip of forgiveness? Of course, that will involve a lot more bookkeeping. As a matter of fact, it will probably involve keeping two sets of books. I think that we had better park this vehicle, since the shimmy is getting worse rather than better. Why don't we pull it into a dealership and trade it in for a new model? I will give the next part of this in a day or so. John Hobson AT&T Bell Labs--Naperville, IL ihnp4!iwlc6!amigo