Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site gatech.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!gatech!spaf From: spaf@gatech.UUCP (Gene Spafford) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: several concerns Message-ID: <6133@gatech.UUCP> Date: Sun, 15-Apr-84 19:50:49 EST Article-I.D.: gatech.6133 Posted: Sun Apr 15 19:50:49 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 16-Apr-84 06:49:35 EST References: <661@pucc-h>, <850@nsc.UUCP> Organization: The Clouds Project, School of ICS, Georgia Tech Lines: 66 I think a number of comments I might make are all tied into the same general comment: don't have too many expectations. If you're looking for something particular in a person, you'll probably not only not find what you're looking for, but you may miss a number of other things you never considered. For instance: small talk. If you take the attitude that you are trying to play a role or follow some set pattern which requires banal conversation, then you are likely to miss some things. Conversation, especially when sincere and when you really listen, can be very rewarding BY ITSELF. If you're just looking to get laid then why bother relating to the person? However, if you're interested in relating to real people, male or female, young or old, then enjoy conversation. It doesn't help much if you're looking for a one-night stand, but it is a great way to make new friends. Sometimes friends become lovers, but even if not, it seems that friends sometimes last a lot longer than lovers do. For instance: age differences. If you're looking for maturity or spontanious behavior, you can't always base it on somebody's age. Maybe you can use age as a hint, but it isn't always the case. I've met some very wise and mature 17 year olds, and I've met some pretty crazy 40 year olds (and beyond. I expect to be one such). Experience can be gained (break the young ones in your way!), but some basic traits are there no matter what the age. Just enjoy the other person being what they are. Seek out what they may be instead of trying to base expectations on their age. Maybe you bring more experience to the relationship, and maybe you bring a fresher view of what the relationship can be, but what is most important is that you bring your sense of caring and honesty to the relationship. Those can be used to build a relationship that no amount of time can erode, be it a difference in ages or the passage of years. For instance: what to look for in a MOTAS. Don't look. Don't expect. Enjoy the company of people you are with. Care for people around you. Don't go hunting for the perfect mate because the act of finding the object of your desires changes you and thus your desires. (The Heisenberg-Spafford Principle of Relationships: You can know what you want, you can know what you have, or you can want what you have, but you cannot ever have what you know you want. Profound or stupid, take your pick.) Anyhow, the air of "predator" changes who you will attract and impress. Don't carry expectations around where you use them as a filter to view the world and the people in it -- you lose a lot of the detail and beauty of what you could really see. Instead, just be the kind of person you really want to be -- don't work at impressing anyone. Live your life, and don't be surprised if suddenly, without any real warning, someone tells you you're rather nice in a special sort of way. Or perhaps you'll suddenly notice that someone around you is really very special to you and you just hadn't realized it until just now. If it takes a while, so what? If you're really living and not acting like how you think "bait" should act then you'll be making the best use of your time and energy. I can't say that this advice will work for anybody else, but it seems to apply well for the people around me. It also has worked for me in the past and seems to be happening again. This is sort of a Tao of the heart -- if you seek to find the way, you will not find the way. Only by ignoring the path can you follow it. Only through having no expectations can you surpass them. If I'm so smart, why am I lonely, -- Off the Wall of Gene Spafford The Clouds Project, School of ICS, Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332 CSNet: Spaf @ GATech ARPA: Spaf.GATech @ CSNet-Relay uucp: ...!{akgua,allegra,rlgvax,sb1,unmvax,ulysses,ut-sally}!gatech!spaf