Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!floyd!harpo!decvax!ucbvax!ucbcad!tektronix!hplabs!sri-unix!dietz%USC-CSE@USC-ECL.ARPA From: dietz%USC-CSE@USC-ECL.ARPA Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Reply to Wilkins Message-ID: <266@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Sun, 25-Mar-84 15:08:00 EST Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.266 Posted: Sun Mar 25 15:08:00 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 30-Mar-84 00:32:37 EST Lines: 22 Do I think giving money to winos is a good idea? No. My point was simply this: You seem to believe that ALL of that 7 to 14 times return on investment in NASA has come back in the form of new technologies. I hope I demonstrated that this is absurd; a best a very small fraction of the investment comes back in the form of spinoffs. The space program CANNOT therefore be justified by pointing to unintended technological benefits. This is not suprising. After all, building moon rockets seems like an EXTREMELY inefficient way to do basic research. If you want new plastics, materials, glues, etc., why not just look for them and chuck the space program? If most of that 7-14 times return was not in the form of new technology it must have been in the form of economic activity generated directly by NASA spending. The wino spending example was merely meant to show that the argument for NASA spending from multiplied economic activity is also absurd, since spending on NASA -- IN REGARDS TO DIRECTLY GENERATED ECONOMIC ACTIVITY -- is equivalent to wino spending (which is clearly not productive). My message was not intended to advocate anything, merely to point out that certain arguments for the space program are flawed.