Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!we13!ihnp4!zehntel!hplabs!sri-unix!dietz%USC-CSE@USC-ECL.ARPA From: dietz%USC-CSE@USC-ECL.ARPA Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Re: spinoffs Message-ID: <12062@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Fri, 6-Apr-84 10:57:00 EST Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.12062 Posted: Fri Apr 6 10:57:00 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 19-Apr-84 03:07:49 EST Lines: 21 Bill Westfield: I agree completely that we must distinguish demand and supply effects (demand effects being the economic activity generated by NASA engineers spending their salaries, supply effects being new technology). That fact that ANY government spending has the same demand effect is instructive. Can you provide some numbers on supply effects? Henry Spencer, Steve Ludlum: I still think NASA spending on specific space projects is a poor way to foster general technological progress. It certainly isn't necesary (Japan spends much less on space, for example). By "basic research" I really meant to include "basic development": research intended to produce new materials, technologies, etc., such as Japan's MITI sponsored research. I'd still like some hard figures on the value of NASA spinoffs, or even a list of any significant spinoffs. Ferrofluids are one, generating sales of around $100 million a year. Any others? What would the economic return be if an amount of money equal to NASA's budget were instead invested by venture capitalists in high tech startup companies? Quite a bit larger, I'd think, and it would be a real gain, not demand effects.