Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site astrovax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!astrovax!elt From: elt@astrovax.UUCP (Ed Turner) Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Cost of the Shuttle Message-ID: <316@astrovax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 27-Apr-84 13:31:00 EST Article-I.D.: astrovax.316 Posted: Fri Apr 27 13:31:00 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 28-Apr-84 09:41:20 EST Distribution: net.columbia Organization: Princeton Univ. Astrophysics Lines: 73 This may be regarded as a continuation of the recent exchange between Karl Stapelfeldt and myself concerning the true cost of Shuttle missions and whether or not they are a good deal for space science. There are several somewhat related points I would like to make: 1) My colleagues who are primarily space astronomers (I am mainly a ground based optical astronomer.) essentially unanimously regard the 1970's as disastrous for space science. The problem was not so much that major, well advanced (named and well publicized) missions were canceled in great numbers (although the few such losses Karl mentions were painful) as this is conspicuous and politically difficult for NASA. Instead planned missions were delayed and most seriously new mission plans were not developed and will not be in the rather long time lag queue associated with space science. The net result is a sharp decrease in the number of science missions. Some specific examples are number of planned launches of planetary probes has dropped from of order 1 per year to of order 1 or 2 per decade, previously nearly continuous existence of some sort of x-ray astronomy facility in orbit has been replaced with a roughly 15 year gap (that's half an astronomer's productive career!) between EINSTEIN and AXAF, and no plans for radio interferometry experiments in space (which were being widely discussed and anticipated in the 70's). The big space astronomy events of 80's such as Space Telescope and COBE were originally planned for the 70's (or very early 80's). In essence NASA can spend less and less on space science without every canceling anything (except time critical missions such as the Halley probe) just by delaying everything in the pipeline more and more. 2) Less critical but still scientifically very costly, NASA canceled essentially all support for ground based observations and most funds for theoretical work in support of space missions. 3) I don't know to what extent astronomy's problems extend to other areas of space science, but my impression is that they were general. 4) I believe these problems have been widely recognized in the scientific community. For instance, George Keyworth (the President's Science Advisor) in his review of the Reagan administration science policy (SCIENCE 1984, Vol. 224, No. 4644 (April 6), pp. 9-13) in an attempt to reassure the scientific community about the space station program states "We are all aware of the lesson of the impact of the Shuttle program on space sciences in the 1970's-and we are not about to see that happen again." The space astronomy community dreads the space station like the plague as far as I can tell. In a more informal comment at the Jan. 1984 Las Vegas AAS meeting, Keyworth was even more blunt calling the Shuttle "a disaster for astronomers" again in an attempt to reassure them relative to the space station project. 5) These problems occurred because in the face of declining budgets and Shuttle budget over runs in the 1970's, NASA gave the Shuttle program priority over space science programs. Karl argues this should be blamed not on the Shuttle but rather on the Federal government for its inadequate and inconsistent funding of NASA. Well, yes and no. You could blame the Shuttle project for being too expensive, or NASA for having the wrong priorities, or the Feds for poor support of NASA, or the general population for electing such a government and tolerating such budgeting, or human nature for being so shortsighted, or evolution for producing human nature, or ... Obviously, there is an infinite regression of reasons. In practise one must pick some level to operate on an attempt to influence things there instead of simply referring blame and responsibility to some higher but uninfuencable level. Most scientists feel that they can little influence the overall popular and political support for NASA (except perhaps in some long term sense by trying to educate the public) but that they can try to get NASA to slice up its portion of the pie differently. This in the final analysis is the reason for the criticism of the Shuttle program among space scientists. 6) My personal view is that the manned space program is now and always has been a serious deficit for science but that it is important for other non-scientific reasons. The Shuttle program was good tactics but poor strategy for the manned space program in my opinion. Ed Turner astrovax!elt