Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site wivax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!wivax!dyer From: dyer@wivax.UUCP (Stephen Dyer) Newsgroups: net.suicide Subject: Re: Clinical Depression -- (?) Message-ID: <19431@wivax.UUCP> Date: Tue, 24-Apr-84 00:38:11 EST Article-I.D.: wivax.19431 Posted: Tue Apr 24 00:38:11 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 24-Apr-84 07:35:20 EST References: <838@psuvm.UUCP>, <6469@rochester.UUCP> Organization: Wang Institute, Tyngsboro, Ma. 01879 Lines: 31 I find this attack against the person who suggested that severely depressed people whose depression is not reactive (i.e. environmentally based) check with a psychiatrist quite peculiar. I don't know what friends you hang out with, and what their specialties are, but it has been pretty clearly shown in the scientific literature that severe depression has a large biochemical component. Drug therapy does not work in all cases, especially if the patients are suffering from a reactive depression brought on by grief, job problems, etc. But, in rebuttal to your glib comment about lithium therapy, drugs CAN be of enormous help. In the treatment of manic-depressive episodes, lithium has an amazingly specific effect, bringing the patient down from his mania without blunting his affect, and decreasing the severity and frequency of depressive episodes. The tricyclic antidepressants are also quite effective in about 60-70% of non-reactive depressions. In fact, electro-shock treatment, which is strictly speaking not a drug but which causes biochemical changes similar to effective drug therapy, can be literally life-saving when no other treatments have proved successful. This last treatment has been a convenient whipping-boy for the ignorant who take their facts from movies like "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest". Naturally, drug therapy may have some side-effects. The key to quality, non- dogmatic therapy is to identify those patients whose illnesses match those which have shown good response to drug therapy, give them the smallest does which works without side-effects, and then work with them within the baunds of traditional psychotherapies, if that is deemed necessary. -- /Steve Dyer decvax!bbncca!sdyer sdyer@bbncca