Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site fortune.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!floyd!harpo!ihnp4!fortune!phipps From: phipps@fortune.UUCP (Clay Phipps) Newsgroups: net.unix,net.unix-wizards,net.legal Subject: Re: Where's the (c) on UNIX? Message-ID: <2893@fortune.UUCP> Date: Wed, 28-Mar-84 23:47:45 EST Article-I.D.: fortune.2893 Posted: Wed Mar 28 23:47:45 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 30-Mar-84 02:35:08 EST References: <161@idi.UUCP> Organization: Fortune Systems, Redwood City, CA Lines: 31 In a related matter, I remember hearing a while back that all of IBM's OS/360 source code is now "public domain". I vaguely recall that this applied to OS/360 tools such as the compilers. IBM's OS/360 source code and internal documentation all bore the legend: "Licensed Material -- Property of IBM", along with a copyright notice. No flames, please, this is not to say that you'd really want to use it (and certainly not JCL; perhaps some UNIX-like shell could be hacked in ?), but the legal questions may be very similar. I wonder what this means for owners of the S/370-compatible (except for io architecture) IBM XT/370 ? Why be required to be part of a mainframe installation (for megabucks) that licenses VM to you when you can use OS/360 for free ? Remember, it's multitasking in its MVT incarnation, and many 1 MIPS IBM mainframes did a lot with only 1 MB of memory. The resident part of the OS was about 96KB on a S/360-65, as I recall, and the standard 2314 14-inch disk was only 40MB back then ! Of course, there is the fundamental problem that to OS/360, an interactive task was just a high priority batch job. Any legal eagles out there who can explain why UNIX will not also become "public domain" in the future ? -- Clay Phipps -- {amd70 cbosgd decwrl!amd70 harpo hplabs!hpda ihnp4 megatest nsc oliveb sri-unix ucbvax!amd70 varian allegra} !fortune!phipps