Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site watmath.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!saquigley From: saquigley@watmath.UUCP (Sophie Quigley) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Abortion - Men's Rights Message-ID: <7390@watmath.UUCP> Date: Tue, 27-Mar-84 18:00:08 EST Article-I.D.: watmath.7390 Posted: Tue Mar 27 18:00:08 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 28-Mar-84 01:48:22 EST References: <347@houxu.UUCP> Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 29 > Sexual intercourse if done of free will contains an implicit contract for > both parties. In the case of no pregnancy, the contract becomes null and > void, but in the case of pregnancy then the contract is that if either > party wants the fetus then the mother must birth the child and both > parents are responsible for support. As far as I know the only valid contracts in the name of the law are written contracts or oral contracts. As far as I know too, a contract is an agreement between a group of people who are aware that they are making such an agreement. In the case you suggested, it seems that if the mother never mentioned the contract beforehand, and had no intention of ever agreeing to this type of contract if asked by anybody, then it never existed except in the mind of the father; so what is an "implicit" contract? a nonentity that people use to justify things they cannot justify otherwise. I consider this argument to be a non-argument, and as far as I can tell again, the only way you can stop somebody from breaking a contract is to have some proof that the contract existed - which makes it very hard to enforce oral contracts btw. In the case of the contract you mentioned, it seems that if that contract was not oral or written then it does not exist. ESP doesn't count. Your argument is good enough to make a few people feel very guilty about rejecting non-existing unwritten unsaid contract, but it does not stand up in any court of justice. It is just a non-argument cleverly hidden behind legalistic verbiage. Sophie Quigley ...!{decvax,allegra}!watmath!saquigley