From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!npoiv!alice!mhtsa!eagle!mhuxt!mhuxj!mhuxi!cbosgd!npois!houxm!houxa!houxi!houxz!ihnp4!laidbak!trsvax!ljw Newsgroups: net.women Title: Re: pro-choice groups Article-I.D.: trsvax.225 Posted: Wed Mar 2 12:05:12 1983 Received: Wed Mar 9 03:46:41 1983 References: tekmdp.1800 I am interested in knowing where Cindy McMeekin gets her information that 80% percent of Americans are pro-choice. Her status on the NARAL board makes requires that her figures be taken with a grain of salt. According to the Associated Press (which is, as far as I know, officially non-biased on the subject), their surveys show that (quoting from last Saturday's Fort Worth Star-Telegram) "On abortion, surveys find that 73 percent want it limited to certain cases or banned". Perhaps her (and many other persons) belief that abortion is so popular is due to the fact that the same article stated that, of the 104 key people who decide what we see on television, 97 percent believe a woman has a right to decide for herself about having an abortion. The point of the newspaper article was that television executives were not showing to americans an unbiased view on subjects such as abortion, homosexuality, religion, etc. From now on, before you throw out numbers, explain where you get your figures from. I personally feel the arguments about abortion are useless. The two viewpoints start off with two different presuppositions. Anti-abortionists (who are not "anti-choice", just "anti-abortionist") believe that the human fetus is a human being, and thus subject to the laws of the constitution (including the right not to be murdered), whereas pro-abortionists believe that the human fetus is not a human being, and thus the woman is free to deal with this "thing" attached to her as she sees fit. What I'm interested in knowing is: Has anybody done any tests to prove or disprove whether or not a fetus is a human being? I don't mean just the congressional arguments, but real live unbiased (if there is such a thing) laboratory tests. It seems to me, that until the results of such tests are in, we should give the fetus "the benefit of the doubt" and not allow abortions, just in case it actually is murder.