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From: martillo@ihuxt.UUCP (Yehoyaqim Shemtob Martillo)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: Martillo's Rape Cure
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Date: Sat, 31-Mar-84 23:16:10 EST
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>| Martillo's Rape Cure |
>
>	I can't believe that somebody would actually suggest this in
>net.women!  Don't you realize that the whole problem with rape is that
>it effectively puts women at the mercy of men?  By suggesting that
>women stay in unless accompanied by male relatives, you're suggesting
>that women not act as freely, as assertively, as *human* as men.
>	The ideal that men are better than women, that they are the
>*real* humans while women are a subspecies, that a woman shouldn't be
>able to walk around like a man shall; that ideal that man is the master
>of woman is the underlying cause for rape!
>	I know there are different cultures at work here; that is, there
>are a different ideal of woman in Libyan culture than there is in Ameri-
>can culture.  In case you aren't aware, it hasn't always been this way.
>The Woman's Movement has delved deep into this culture's ideals of woman
>and has found that these ideals are contrary to human nature.  Our cul-
>ture is much improved because of this; and someday, Libya's culture will
>feel it too.
>
>	I enjoyed the "alternate solution" (lock all the men up); how
>does Martillo feel about it?


Lawless men rape women because they are horny and think they can get away
with it.  Obviously, a man who is willing to break a major law will break
a minor law like curfew.  Goldah Me'ir was never a mental giant.

A lot of the women's movement is intellectually dishonest.  Probably, boys
and girls can be raised in a gender neutral fashion.  However, all the
evidence I have read could be equally well interpreted that male and
female behavior is naturally different but if a parent is willing to work
hard enough the child can be conditioned to unnatural gender-neutral
behavior.  Occam's razor favors this hypothesis.

In any case women's movements never last more than one generation because
the true believers have too few children.

Also, as the USA becomes increasingly Hispanic, the maintenance of
feminist ideals will become difficult.