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From: ken@ihuxq.UUCP (ken perlow)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: Rape in Libya
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Date: Sun, 8-Apr-84 19:03:43 EST
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Posted: Sun Apr  8 19:03:43 1984
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Well, I've stayed away from this one as long as I could.  Alas:

>> Still, I should like to note that in a previous article Miss Quigley
>> confused evidence rules of rape and adultery cases...

Using the N. Y. Times style book, are we?  How do you know she's
not Mrs. Quigley?

>> I believe the word is clitoridectomy and there are Muslim women who defend
>> the operation.  The person who carries out the operation is a woman.

This is an argument?  Read Solomon Asch on attitude compliance and
of course, Mr. Martillo, Bruno Bettelheim on prisoner emulation of
concentration camp guards.  (He was there.)  Why, even here in the US
we have Phyllis Schafly.  All oppressed minorities can find a few
apologists for, if not active proponents of, the system.

>> American feminists seem to have totally accepted careerism as
>> self-fulfillment.  The importance of careerism in American society is
>> purely a result of the low-class bourgeois background of most of the
>> people who immigrated to the United States.  Upper class Europeans have
>> never considered careerism an important value...

For a guy who's so quick to get on Westerners' cases about their
ignorance of North African culture because they weren't born there,
Mr. M has a lot of chutzpah.  What did the Uppah Claahss need careers
for?  Squander it as they might, their wealth, until into the 20th
century, was so vast it was not necessary to work.  Yes, a career
is important when the alternative is starvation.  Oh yes, it was
during this century, during the world wars, that women were essentially
drafted into the US labor force in large numbers.  I guess you'd have to
have studied some American history to know that.

I submit, Mr. M., that you know very little about the determinants
of American culture.  But you will go far (as you certainly already
have) on your colossal arrogance.
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