Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ut-sally.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!harpo!seismo!ut-sally!riddle From: riddle@ut-sally.UUCP (Prentiss Riddle) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Feminism and the double standard Message-ID: <1822@ut-sally.UUCP> Date: Mon, 9-Apr-84 12:58:26 EST Article-I.D.: ut-sally.1822 Posted: Mon Apr 9 12:58:26 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 11-Apr-84 00:22:12 EST References: <6448@umcp-cs.UUCP> <4816@lanl-a.UUCP> Organization: U. of Tx. at Houston-in-the-Hills Lines: 30 To rephrase the question in still another way: Suppose that our hypothetical office politicker scores points against a co-worker not by flirtation, but by feigning friendship? Does it make a difference that the deceit is practiced on a non-sexual level? [You can fill in the blanks in the scenario with male and female manipulators and manipulatees as you like. Does this make any difference in the conclusions you reach?] Even in academia, I've seen some pretty slimy bastards who would be anyone's good buddy one minute and ace back-stabbers the next. I hardly find it encouraging to hear that some feminists might rationalize the sexual equivalent of such behavior as acceptable practice in the corporate world. As far as I am concerned, faking an interest in another person (sexual interest or not, in a member of the opposite sex or not) to achieve selfish goals is not a very admirable act. It might be a necessary act for one caught in a very difficult situation not of one's own making (for instance, a female professional expected to get work done in a department full of hostile MCPs), but would still be nothing to be proud of. When used simply as a tool in office guerrilla warfare, such tactics become despicable. I have always thought that the whole point of feminism was to treat people of either sex as worthwhile human beings, not as objects to be used. Am I missing something somewhere? --- Prentiss Riddle ("Aprendiz de todo, maestro de nada.") --- {ihnp4,seismo,gatech,ctvax}!ut-sally!riddle