Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP
Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site sdccsu3.UUCP
Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!sdcsvax!sdccsu3!kenn
From: kenn@sdccsu3.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: Re:
Message-ID: <1783@sdccsu3.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 1-May-84 11:43:07 EDT
Article-I.D.: sdccsu3.1783
Posted: Tue May  1 11:43:07 1984
Date-Received: Wed, 2-May-84 06:21:06 EDT
References: <843@psuvm.UUCP>
Organization: Hacker's Haven, U.C. San Diego
Lines: 38

From: ..psuvm!v6m (Vince Marchionni)

> 3.  The human has a right to live, although this may be abrogated under
>     just cause.  Usually the case after a human has done something under
>     freewill.
> 
> 4.  The fetus is a defenseless (by observation) human (by above) and is
>     worthy of the protection of the state which protects ALL humans.
> 
> 5.  Legalized abortion removes the protection of the state from the fetus
>     and sets dangerous precedents.

First of all, #5 is just another wasteful complaint, edging on our needs of
freedom to gain support for your opinion.  Stick to logic, not "The world will
end if this goes on"...

Now, to #3 and #4:
	Think of the wisdom-tooth example.  Here are four perfectly good teeth.
You get them only once in your life, and teeth are EXTREMELY useful and needed.
Nobody would really want to be without teeth (I would guess!).  But, if the
wisdom-teeth come in badly, they'll louse up the alignment of all the other
teeth.  A still-good and perfectly normal tooth will have to be extracted.  All
four, usually.  Same with a fetus.  If it comes at the wrong time it'll change
(usually for the worse) at least two lives, possibly more.  Your canines and
molars and incisors have been 'used' more, your wisdom teeth you can live 
without.  I could say the same for a fetus.  No matter how valuable or worthful
an object is, if it's creation will ruin the existances of two already existing
objects, it shouldn't come to be.

Also, I'd like to see some pro-lifer's comments on Sophie's article, since most
pro-life arguements ignore her said concept.  I've been accused of being selfish
in my pro-choice arguements, but isn't it also selfish to save the lives of
fetuses without any reguard to the impact on the lives of the parents?

				   Kenn the Kenf
				...!sdcsvax!kenn
				...!sdcsvax!sdccs6!ix192
				...!sdcsvax!sdccsu3!kenn