Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.08 10/3/83; site psuvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!psuvax!simon From: simon@psuvax.UUCP (Janos Simon) Newsgroups: net.ai Subject: Re: A topic for discussion, phil/ai persons. Message-ID: <1063@psuvax.UUCP> Date: Sun, 20-May-84 18:46:23 EDT Article-I.D.: psuvax.1063 Posted: Sun May 20 18:46:23 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 21-May-84 06:24:29 EDT References: <277@wxlvax.UUCP> <503@sequent.UUCP> Organization: Pennsylvania State Univ. Lines: 13 [] The philosophical discussion seems to reveal the basic fallacy of the original argument (Computers cannot possibly ...), namely, WHAT is it that we want computers to do? The original submission basically said "This is how we humans would act. Computers are being programmed today to simulate such behavior using very restricted techniques. Therefore no such simulation can possibly exist." Some very learned submissions showed that there is wide disagreement in defining what we mean by "sameness" - in fact this is a fundamental question of philosophy. Nevertheless, each of the competing explanations could be mechanized - perhaps at prohibitive cost. js