Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles; site uiuccsb.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uiuccsb!jackson From: jackson@uiuccsb.UUCP Newsgroups: net.arch Subject: Re: lets talk supercomputer micro-archit - (nf) Message-ID: <5600015@uiuccsb.UUCP> Date: Mon, 30-Apr-84 22:20:00 EDT Article-I.D.: uiuccsb.5600015 Posted: Mon Apr 30 22:20:00 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 3-May-84 20:09:17 EDT References: <255@houxk.UUCP> Lines: 33 Nf-ID: #R:houxk:-25500:uiuccsb:5600015:000:1127 Nf-From: uiuccsb!jackson Apr 30 21:20:00 1984 #R:houxk:-25500:uiuccsb:5600015:000:1127 uiuccsb!jackson Apr 30 21:20:00 1984 /**** uiuccsb:net.arch / houxk!rdt / 6:21 pm Apr 29, 1984 ****/ several publications have claimed hat the japanese have caught up and in some cases exceeded cray-2 level performance. it seems to me that the only way that this could have happened to their american counterparts is that 1. we took them for granted. 2. we are losing a technology driven race. (GaAs vs. Si.) 3. we are running out of hardware speedup techniques. richard trauben /* ---------- */ You seem to have forgotten one major technique of speeding up programs. That is through the use of program restructurers, the way many vectorizers and vectorizing compilers work. Although Fujitsu's VP200 has a lower peak MEGAFLOP rate than the CRAY-XMP, on the benchmarks that I've heard about the VP200 out performs the CRAY because of the superior vectorizing compiler Fujitsu has. That is, Cray has faster hardware than the Fujitsu, but the Fujitsu has superior software to overcome the slower hardware -- thus a faster machine for the user. Dan Jackson University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign UUCP: {pur-ee | ihnp4}!uiucdcs!uiuccsb!jackson