Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site astrovax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!princeton!astrovax!elt From: elt@astrovax.UUCP (Ed Turner) Newsgroups: net.astro.expert Subject: Re: nemesis and the end of the world Message-ID: <355@astrovax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 25-May-84 10:51:02 EDT Article-I.D.: astrovax.355 Posted: Fri May 25 10:51:02 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 31-May-84 23:49:41 EDT References: <16@utastro.UUCP> Organization: Princeton Univ. Astrophysics Lines: 44 Ethan has recently expounded the Nemesis or Death Star theory for the apparent periodic mass extinctions on Earth. Since I have them in front of me, I thought I might add a few references and then indulge myself with a couple of comments. 1) paleomtological evidence of periodicity: D. M. Raup and J. J. Sepkoski in PROC. NAT. ACAD. ACI. late 1983 or 1984. 2) suggestion of Nemesis hypothesis: M. Davis, P. Hut, and R. Muller in NATURE, 1984. 3) confirmation of the periodicity in crater age data: W. Alvarez and R. Muller in NATURE, 1984. 4) evaluation of stability of wide binary clock: P. Hut in NATURE, in press I think. My comments: Computer simulations by Hut described in 4 above seem to indicate a period stability of the order of 10% accuracy over the required time scales; this is sufficient given the large errors in crater aging data. I believe the apparent periodicity in the crater age data is more impressive than Dr. Nather's recent comments imply. It is true that the data are few and uncertain, but it is also true that a *preexisting* crater age data set gives essentially the same period and *the same phase* as the fossil record when subjected to a quite straightforward analysis. Also I think that Alvarez and Muller (#3 above) have been reasonably careful and conservative in their analysis. Their paper (which anyone interested should certainly read) describes a number of checks and tests, including Monte-Carlo simulations they used to estimate the significance of their result. Their 99.5% confidence result looks reasonable to me. It is amusing to note that if the Nemesis hypothesis is correct, the period of order 10^6 yrs following a close passage would be distinguihed by having the night sky filled with comets. from the figures given in reference 2 above I calculate an average of roughly 10^3 comets would be visible at any given time! Perhaps the old superstitions about comets being the "harbringers of doom" is an ancient genetic memory that associates this spectacle with the unpleasantries associated with impacts. :-) Ed Turner astrovax!elt