Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site watmath.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!csc From: csc@watmath.UUCP (Computer Sci Club) Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: Re: What does "distortion" sound like? Message-ID: <7819@watmath.UUCP> Date: Tue, 22-May-84 11:36:36 EDT Article-I.D.: watmath.7819 Posted: Tue May 22 11:36:36 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 23-May-84 19:01:05 EDT References: <32900004@convex.UUCP> Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 69 This question actually merits more than the superficial treatment it has been getting so far. Description of sounds is rather difficult as the terms, "muddy", "crisp", "metalic" etc. often seen on this net are somewhat ambiguous and can be quite useless to the neophyte. The best way to describe sounds is to give examples. Noise: The most straightforward type of distortion, noise is additions to the signal you are amplfying that are not related to the signal. Noise can be heard quite easily, listen to a system with no input and turn up the volume, or "white noise is the noise you hear when you turn on the TV and there isn't any station". To hear noise together with music play a tape and turn of the Dolby, (if the deck doesn't have Dolby play a tape :-) ). Clicks and pops due to scratches on records are another common type of noise. Noise is generaly fairly easy to identify, you hear it as something seperate from the music, "tape hiss" for instance. Frequency Distortion. This occurs when some frequencies are amplified more than others. To hear it fool around with the tone controls on your amplifier. If you have access to an equalizer fool around with that to hear more subtle frequency distortion. Frequency distortion is much harder to pin down. You cannot seperate it from the music. If you turn the bass way down or the treble way up it is fairly clear what is happening, but if you just tweak the controls a bit the music will sound different but it is not clear why. It has been shown that humans can hear quite small amounts of frequency distortion, but that they do not always identify it as such. Frequency distortion has been cited as the reason some people perceive a difference between CD's and Lp's Pitch change (mathemaically I think this is harmonic distortion but who cares :-) ) If the pitch of the music is shifted uniformly up or down, we have another type of distortion. A good example of this in the extreme form is a 33 1/3 record played at 45. Small amounts of pitch change are not annoying (or even likely to be detected unless you have perfect pitch) if they are constant. If the pitch change varies with time (e.g. the record speeds up and slows down) this can be very annoying. The best way to detect this is to play some long steady note and listen for variation (test records and tapes have such notes for this reason). Harmonic distortion, This is distortion that introduces frequency components not in the original signal. An extreme example is the distortion of an electric guitar used for effect by many groups. In its extreme form harmonic distortion is quite easy to detect. (The usual description is that the music sounds "fuzzy") In milder forms it is much more difficult to hear. There is a large body of opinion that maintains that the amount of harmonic distortion produced by any reasonably good amplifier is quite inaudible. There are no unanimous opinions in the audio field. Small amounts of distortion are very difficult to hear. In the end you can only compare to some standard, "actual" sound, very difficult to do if you have poor audio memory. I am of the heretical if it sounds good to you go for it school of audiophiles, who listen quite happily to our $800.00 systems with our tin ears. How low a level of distortion is acceptable and whether some types of distortion actually sound better, can be determined by listening to a wide variety of music on a wide variety of systems. William Hughes P.S. Anyone have any other tricks for detecting small amounts of distortion (like listening to steady tones to detect variation in pitch)