Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 (Denver Mods 4/2/84) 6/24/83; site drutx.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!zehntel!ihnp4!drutx!opus From: opus@drutx.UUCP (ShanklandJA) Newsgroups: net.auto Subject: Re: Who is Liable, ad nauseum... Message-ID: <399@drutx.UUCP> Date: Mon, 4-Jun-84 00:26:04 EDT Article-I.D.: drutx.399 Posted: Mon Jun 4 00:26:04 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 1-Jun-84 06:59:07 EDT References: <1353@pegasus.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Information Systems Laboratories, Denver Lines: 35 I recently saw a posting in this newsgroup which claimed that Ford could have fixed this problem for a cost of 3 cents per car. I assume this means only the cost of modifying cars in production? I would find it hard to believe that for 3 cents per car sold, Ford could track down and notify the owners and have their cars repaired at a dealer. Correct. The point is that they knew for over a decade that their cars had a "feature" that was killing people and causing lots of property damage; that the engineer who pointed this out included in his memo a very simple fix that would have raised their production costs by about 3 cents per car; and that they couldn't be bothered to do anything about it. I find arguments that this is all the victims' fault a little hard to fathom. If I start my car idling and get out and raise the hood in order to adjust the idle, am I being reckless and foolish in assuming that the car will not shift itself into gear and drive away? If so, there are a lot of reckless (not wreckless!) mechanics around! The parking brake issue is a red herring. With a parking brake that is slightly out of adjustment and a slightly high idle, these big US cars with their automatic transmissions are perfectly capable of taking themselves for a ride with the parking brake on. In any case, just how reckless these people were in leaving their engines running is not the point. The point is that LOTS of people did it, that Ford knew about it and could have easily prevented the problem from recurring, and that they did nothing. Within reason, machines that will be operated by humans should be designed so as to make human error unlikely. Ford could have saved some 80 lives by showing minimal concern for the safety of their customers. Jim Shankland ..!ihnp4!druxy!opus