Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles; site trsvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!mgnetp!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!trsvax!mikey From: mikey@trsvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.auto Subject: Re: Radar Detectors - (nf) Message-ID: <55200060@trsvax.UUCP> Date: Mon, 28-May-84 12:18:00 EDT Article-I.D.: trsvax.55200060 Posted: Mon May 28 12:18:00 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 1-Jun-84 08:28:23 EDT References: <2800015@uicsl.UUCP> Lines: 62 Nf-ID: #R:uicsl:2800015:trsvax:55200060:000:3442 Nf-From: trsvax!mikey May 28 11:18:00 1984 #R:uicsl:2800015:trsvax:55200060:000:3442 trsvax!mikey May 28 11:18:00 1984 Even if you built your jammer on X-band and tried to operate it as a "Legal" radar system, for say, anticolision in fog, you still can't jam because pulse mode is illegal, for EVERYBODY, on X-band and the FCC has a catchall about deliberate interference. On K-band there is no pulse restrictions. As for jamming, police are getting smarter with exposure. I had a friend in PA that had Radio Shack Minimus 7 speakers on his rear deck with those square suction cups that RS used to sell holding them to the rear window. He got pulled over by a state trooper and the cop demanded that he play them. The square suction cups looked incredibly like waveguides from the outside of the car. As for jammer adds in magazines, most of them are ripoffs. You can get more information from old Car and Drivers (around summer of 79 I think) They even published plans for a single band jammer that you could build for about 200 dollars. The problem is that they can be detected. I saw a handgun that had a switch on it to detect jammers. If the cop suspected that he was being jammed, he just flipped the switch and if the display still read a speed, that means it was being put there artificially. The switch just turned off the transmitter and reset the display. There are ways around this, and there are designs for undetectable jammers, but you won't find them in magazines. The last thing these people want is a lot of jammers on the road and the cops getting wise to how they work. Let the *SSHOLES with converted microwave units frying their own brains as they drive get caught and keep the police uninterested in those that know how to do it right. As for legality of building your own radar, get a HAM ticket. I haven't looked at the microwave region of the band in a long time, but I think at least one of the bands police use is SHARED with ham radio. As for the legality of jamming the police, its a BIG BADDIE. Interfering with police in the performance of their duties. Unlicensed transmitter, illegal operation of a transmitter, deliberate interference with another legitimate signal, and the list goes on. There are even a few catchalls that could lead to really serious penalities, like confiscation of your vehicle as an illegal transmitter site etc. If you don't know how to do it right, you stand a bad chance of getting nailed, especially with el-cheapo jammers. Finally, a jammer is not a license to blast by a cop. The only thing a good jammer will do is give you that critical 3-5 seconds to haul your speed down when you run into officer friendly. Personally, I don't have a jammer. One of the problems is protecting everybody in the field, not just yourself. i.e. you're buzzing by a car at 125 mph on your bike. The car is doing 65-70. About 150 yards back is a truck doing 76 mph. You get the ticket for 76. The truck just came into the field of radar as you pass the car and the cops radar jumps from 64 to 76. (The statement from the cop) What can you do? The radar was obviously in error. Sorry officer, I wont take a ticket for anything less than 115. I could protect myself from this, but with the wide field of the beam necessary and enough power to protect me AND a truck, I didn't want the hassle, I just have a detector on the car and my bike is naked. However!!! Things may change with the next ticket!!! mikey at trsvax 55, it's not just a good idea, it S*CKS!