Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihu1g.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!mcnc!decvax!harpo!ihnp4!ihu1g!fish From: fish@ihu1g.UUCP (Bob Fishell) Newsgroups: net.bicycle Subject: Re: Need Toe Trap Data Message-ID: <344@ihu1g.UUCP> Date: Mon, 14-May-84 16:59:01 EDT Article-I.D.: ihu1g.344 Posted: Mon May 14 16:59:01 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 16-May-84 03:16:18 EDT References: ihu1g.300 <214@varian.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 28 (oo) I don't recall "flippantly" dismissing cleats in my article, it's just that I don't think they're for everybody. They certainly aren't for a beginner who's likely to panic the first time s/he tries to put feet down at a red light. I have a friend who races quite a bit, and he doesn't recommend cleats for city riding because of the occasional panic stops you have to make. He does use them to race, though. I think the decision to use cleats should depend on the area you ride in. Out in the country where panic stops are less likely, it's probably OK, but how can you use them effectively in a congested urban area where you have to stop every couple of blocks? You're either going to ride with loose straps, which takes away some of the benefit, or sooner or later you're going to go down. You can always loosen the straps for an anticipated stop, but not all stops are anticipated. And if you've ever had your rear wheel go wild on you in some loose gravel or oil, you know how important it is to be able to get a foot down to catch yourself. You pays your money and you takes your choice. I've been toying with the idea of getting cleats for long excursions in the farm country west of here, but I don't think I'd want to use them in the city, where I do most of my riding. I know they deliver an efficiency benefit, but I feel better knowing I can uncouple myself from the bike on reflex. -- Bob Fishell ihnp4!ihu1g!fish