Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site hoxna.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!hao!seismo!cmcl2!floyd!harpo!ihnp4!cbosgd!cbdkc1!desoto!hudson!hoxna!kfl From: kfl@hoxna.UUCP (Kenton Lee) Newsgroups: net.bicycle Subject: Re: Biking Shoes - (nf) Message-ID: <201@hoxna.UUCP> Date: Tue, 8-May-84 13:14:55 EDT Article-I.D.: hoxna.201 Posted: Tue May 8 13:14:55 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 16-May-84 07:40:17 EDT References: <38200008@uiucdcs.UUCP> Organization: Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 23 xxxx I've been using Duegi touring shoes (flat soles, no cleats) for the last couple of years and am very pleased. The soles are very stiff, but walking is no problem, as long as you don't try hiking. I've put a few thousand miles on them and they look like they could stand a few thousand more (I had a pair of Bata bikers before these, and they only lasted one biking season). I've never tried cleats, but am considering getting a pair of cleated shoes. With the flat soles on touring shoes, your feet slip around a little (mostly rotating side to side, rather than sliding forward and back). Cleats would remove that problem. Cleats would also give you more pulling power on the upstroke. I have heard only complaints about slotted soles on touring shoes, because the slots are never in the right place. By the way, I have heard speculation that toe clips add about 20 to 25% efficiency and that cleats add another 20 or 25%. Does anyone concur? -- Kenton Lee, Bell Labs - WB wb3g!kfl or hoxna!kfl