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From: steven@qubix.UUCP (Steven Maurer)
Newsgroups: net.comics,net.games.frp
Subject: Re: MARVEL COMICS GREATIST MISTAKE
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Date: Wed, 16-May-84 19:01:11 EDT
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Posted: Wed May 16 19:01:11 1984
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[wee pee dee pee do    wee pee dee pee do-pee]

>   Is this Steve Maurer the same guy that wouldn't know a range
>   restriction or time limit on an AD&D spell if it bit him?
>   If so, then I wouldn't be too quick to take his criticism
>   of this role-playing game seriously. Not that I have tried
>   the game myself; for all I know, it could be as lousy as Steve
>   says it is. It's just that, from past experience with Steve,
>   I've learned to take his comments with a grain of salt.

	"a range restriction" in AD&D refers ONLY to the casting
    range, unless specified otherwise, or the referee decides to
    change the system to add more realism.

	"time limit" on spells, like "weapon bonuses for armor class"
    are so often ignored that they can hardly be called part of the
    system.  If you accept 'time limits' on AD&D spells, then you must
    accept the 'casting times' as well; almost all AD&D referees ignore
    both (because low level MU's have to wait up to a full minute to
    get off a spell).   This is a fault of the system, since a rule
    that is so unwieldy that it is not played, cannot be called part
    of the system.

	The article to which I refered, mentioned that a feather fall
    was used in a campaign (by a typical AD&D referee) to splat a Xorn.
    I did not say that I do not know about rules to the contrary buried
    somewhere deep in the system, only that unless a referee worships
    the book(s) he will never find them.

	Finally, if you wish to take my criticism of the TSR/Marvel
    product with a grain of salt, go ahead and buy the thing.   You
    will get exactly what you deserve.

    Steven Maurer