Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site u1100a.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!u1100a!sdo From: sdo@u1100a.UUCP (Scott Orshan) Newsgroups: net.consumers Subject: Re: social security numbers Message-ID: <655@u1100a.UUCP> Date: Thu, 3-May-84 11:11:52 EDT Article-I.D.: u1100a.655 Posted: Thu May 3 11:11:52 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 4-May-84 03:36:20 EDT References: <320@ihu1g.UUCP> Organization: Bell Communications Research, Piscataway, NJ Lines: 47 I don't see why people object to having a personal, unique identifier. First of all, everybody says "I don't want to tell them MY SSN." Remember - you weren't born with it - you asked the government to give it to you. You already have a fairly unique identifier - NAME-BIRTHDAY-BIRTHTIME probably won't have many conflicts. As programmers, you all realize how much easier it is to key off a number rather than the above aggregate. Now, I'm not stupid. I realize what the complaining is about. You're worried that if many databases use the same key, their information can be combined, and provide someone with access to far more information than is necessary. Do you all think that there is a "Big Sister" somewhere who writes all the software in the country and types everyone's names into databases? No, people. It is YOU who are the software developers. You are the ones who get asked to write a program combining databases. If you think it is unethical, complain about it, and quit if necessary. If you write a database access system, put controls on it. Someone's going to try to match the keys anyway, and combine databases. This usually leads to problems. It might as well be done right. Let's just control who does it. Don't say - "But the government does it" as if the government were a big box. There are people on this net who work for the government - THEY are this government that everyone complains about. They may even read this stuff. I see many advantages to having unique identifiers. For one thing, we are unique people. I don't mind if everyone I deal with knows I am me. It would solve a lot of problems. How many times do you get duplicate mailings because you're on a mailing list twice with your name spelled differently. There are people who deliberately do this to determine where their junk mail came from. Look how much money cities save by matching their payroll lists against their welfare lists. The Federal Govt. is matching its employee lists against the lists of people who haven't paid their federal school loans. I don't see this as a bad thing. Let's not try to hide who we are. Let's try to control the information collected about us. Scott Orshan Bell Communications Research 201-981-3064 {ihnp4,allegra,pyuxww}!u1100a!sdo