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From: dave@utcsrgv.UUCP (Dave Sherman)
Newsgroups: net.consumers
Subject: Re: Free vacation in Florida from Holiday House?
Message-ID: <4293@utcsrgv.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 15-May-84 12:33:33 EDT
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Posted: Tue May 15 12:33:33 1984
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~|   From: wetcw@pyuxa.UUCP (T C Wheeler)
~|   
~|   DAVE!  DAVE!  Quick, cancel the charge.  There has been a major
~|   scam being run out of several cities in the US advertising just
~|   what you have described.  The way it operates is to get you to
~|   send in some stated amount for a voucher or membership card.  When
~|   you go to take your vacation, they hem and haw about being filled
~|   up or they never answer.  You seem to have forgotten that old
~|   adage " If it's too good to be true, it ain't."  IF, and I say
~|   If, you ever get to Florida on one of these "deals", you will
~|   find yourself in some fleabag, rattrap accomodations with food
~|   chits for the local fly-by-night fast food joint.  Further, if
~|   you attend the, HA, 1 1/2 hour film, you will be put under
~|   such pressure to buy that you won't believe it.  The Russian
~|   KGB sends its agents to the time-share salesmen schools for
~|   training.  
~|   
~|   Save your money Dave.  DON'T SIGN ANYTHING.  If you want to
~|   get rid of some money, I have this property in .........

First of all, I haven't signed anything. I've given a credit card
number over the phone. If the documentation which arrives isn't
satisfactory (and they *have* said I can cancel and return the voucher
for a complete refund), I can have the charge reversed simply by
telling the bank.

Re the accomodations: they gave me the name of the hotels in question,
and I will check them out before paying the charge. Here's where I
would expect the accomodations to be good. If they want to have the
slightest hope of getting us to buy timesharing in Sebring (where??),
presumably they'll want to make us have a good time while we're there.

I fully expect the high-pressure sales tactics. My wife and I are
"fight-back" type consumers, and we have no concerns whatsoever that
we'll get pressured into buying something. (We have some good reasons
for refusing anyway that they'll have problems with... like the
condo unit's kitchen isn't kosher.) We enjoy making salesmen miserable,
so we won't feel guilty in the least.

Thanks for the reply, anyway. I'm keeping an open mind, for now.
Anyone else heard of these people, or seen any newspaper articles?
-- 

 dave at Toronto (CSnet)
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