Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site iwlc6.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!we13!ihnp4!iwlc6!amigo From: amigo@iwlc6.UUCP (John Hobson) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: Humanism, Christianity and Nazism Message-ID: <148@iwlc6.UUCP> Date: Thu, 3-May-84 13:37:14 EDT Article-I.D.: iwlc6.148 Posted: Thu May 3 13:37:14 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 4-May-84 06:44:46 EDT References: <621@ihuxk.UUCP> <457@ihuxt.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 38 Yehoyaqim Martillo states: >> Democracy or Avowed Populism in a government correlated >> negatively with a government's willingness to help Jews. >> >> The Western democracies feared popular hostility toward >> aiding Jews. >> >> Stalin, Mussolini, Franco, the King of Tunis, and Emperor >> Hirohito did not have to worry about public opinion. >> >> On the other hand, Hitler had been democratically elected >> and antisemitism was probably the most popular Nazi program. Come on. I refuse to believe that Hitler was elected purely and simply on a "Juden und Hunden verboten" platform. Don't forget that Germany was deep in the throes of the depression, and was also still smarting from its defeat in WWI and from the aftermath of that defeat. Hitler promised jobs, order (remember the uprisings in 1919--the German people certainly did), and a return to greatness for Germany. While Hitler saw the Jews (collectively) as among the main villains in Germany's defeat and subsequent state of affairs, the average German differentiated between the House of Rothschild (whom he detested) and Samuel Cohen, the bookseller in the next street, whom he treated as another member of the community. Also, I would like to point out that Stalin was not particularly noted for his fondness towards Jews. Jews suffered out of all proportion to their percentage of the population during the purge trial (consider the "Doctors' Trial" of the late 30's, with the vast majority of the defendants being Jews) and also the refusal of the Red Army during the Warsaw Ghetto uprising to lift a finger in defense of the Warsaw Jews. John Hobson AT&T Bell Labs--Naperville, IL ihnp4!iwlc6!amigo