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From: rcb@fortune.UUCP (Robert Binstock)
Newsgroups: net.flame
Subject: Re: Rending in Brookline
Message-ID: <3257@fortune.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 8-May-84 12:10:14 EDT
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Posted: Tue May  8 12:10:14 1984
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>>"Social maturity"...well, guess that's what I see when I look out my 
>>windows and see my neighbors pissing on their house, their cars, and 
>>the stolen stone dog in their parking area.  

>>Okay, I guess I can stand THESE demonstrations of social maturity 
>>(although it seems that there must be some sort of a zoning law 
>>requiring indoor plumbing), but I get a bit grumpy when they decide to
>>demonstrate their social maturity triumphing over the paranoid worship
>>of property by kicking holes in my landlord's fence and by destroying 
>>parts of my landlord's porch and other neighbor's porches.  (The fence
>>was nice because it prevented me from viewing the social maturity of 
>>my neighbors and it also hid from urchins an opportunity to triumph 
>>over the paranoid worship of property in the form of stripping my 
>>roommate's bicycle.) 

Forgive me for being dense, but what the hell has all of that got to do
with rent control?  The phrases "social maturity" and "paranoid worship
of property" in my original posting were obviously in reference to
rent control and renters' rights.  It may surprise Lisa Chabot to
know that all of the things she describes happen everywhere in the
U.S. (even in dear old California!), regardless of local rent control
laws.

However, this IS net.flame, so I should have been prepared for my 
statements to be interpreted in a larger context.  And seeing that
this IS net.flame, let me ask Lisa Chabot:

Are you objecting to neighborhoods in which there are some people
who don't make $30,000 a year and live in condos?  Or are you trashing
the Boston area in comparison to your beloved California?   As a
Boston native currently enduring the horrors of California, and as
someone who has actually been known to spend time in such neighborhoods,
I welcome you to the real world of real people.  The only difference
is that in Boston "Nice" people sometimes live side-by-side with "not
Nice" people; in California, the latter are herded into Oakland and East
L.A. and ignored.

P.S.:  Here's something that IS relevant to rent control.  Rents in San
Francisco are up %33 in three years (in the Sunset, %100).  In New
York, %20.  In Seattle, %9.  Also, since vacancy control was vetoed
by S.F.'s mayor, eviction proceedings in "The City" are up %400. 
So much for those wonderfully socially mature landlords.