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From: rcb@fortune.UUCP (Robert Binstock)
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Subject: Re: Rent Control, etc.
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Date: Wed, 23-May-84 19:46:43 EDT
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Posted: Wed May 23 19:46:43 1984
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Now there is a fine example for you--simultaneously, it is both an 
oxymoron and a world-class copout.  "I am responsible for you.  
Therefor, I will make the government force him to give you whatever I 
think you should have."  As we all know, the only thing that government
can do well is to screw things up.  Thus, Binstock is really expressing 
his hatred for himself, while denying any guilt feelings, when he calls
on government action to relieve himself of responsibility.  

Just how screwed up can you get?  Yes, idiot, a question of 
responsibility is involved.  The question is whether you have the guts 
to fulfill your responsibilities, as you see them.  If you feel that you
have a responsibility to provide housing privilege to some class, then 
you should feel obligated to work your tail off and subsidize that 
class out of your pocket, not out of mine.  To take from the productive
to give to the unproductive is the kind of obscenity that is exactly 
opposite to the 'responsibility' that you are claiming.

Yes, responsibility is the issue--to me, its the only issue.  When are 
you going to behave--or at least write--in a responsible fashion?  Learn
what the word means, and then you can earn the right to use it--
responsibly.

--Bill Price  
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Ok, you don't want to be polite, let's not be polite.

I never did like people who are too stupid and/or selfish to understand
that the GOVERNMENT IS US.  There is a limit to what individuals can 
accomplish, in case you haven't noticed, so they form governments.  
These governments have several purposes, including fulfilling collective
responsibility by protecting the life, liberty and property of 
privileged morons like Bill Price who are too dumb to realize that
they wouldn't last a second without government help.  

Who the hell do you think builds the roads you drive on, Peter Pan?  The
Good Fairy?  Who do you think arranges to have your house put out when 
it catches fire?  I do, you twit.  And you do it for me.  We all do it 
for each other because none of us wants to live in a jungle, except
people who think they're big, tough he-men and she-women who can make 
it all by their lonesomes.

If you think the government screws everything up, do something about
it or get the hell out of this country, I don't want my tax money
spent on someone like you.  Don't whine about some fantasy you have of
a mythical "them" government that you have no control over.

And your suggestion that it is only "the unproductive" who are helped
by social legislation and "the productive" that are harmed by it makes
me want to puke.  Grow up!  Ever hear of bad luck?  Wish I could 
introduce you to some very productive but not very well-off friends
of mine.  When they heard you say that, I'd be surprised if you
lasted 30 seconds before crawling off in humiliation.  

The cowboys are all dead, Price.  Whether you like it or not, we're
all dependent on each other.  (Oh, yick!  You mean those smelly
poor people are in the same UNIVERSE as me?)  Learn to live in reality.

Bob Binstock