Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site umcp-cs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!hao!seismo!rlgvax!cvl!umcp-cs!flink From: flink@umcp-cs.UUCP Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: belated reply--rent control & property Message-ID: <7262@umcp-cs.UUCP> Date: Fri, 25-May-84 16:59:16 EDT Article-I.D.: umcp-cs.7262 Posted: Fri May 25 16:59:16 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 1-Jun-84 04:13:40 EDT Organization: Univ. of Maryland, Computer Science Dept. Lines: 23 Understatement of the week, by Ray Simard: >> This raises a ticklish question: "If I am buying a piece of land >>from someone who bought it from someone, who...". Extended back throught >>history, where does the chain begin? Who owned that property in the first >>place, to sell it to anyone? Larry Kolodney was right to point out that physical property is not created by anyone; thus the Right is going to have a hard time explaining why anyone has a right to it. And if nobody had a right to it in the beginning, then nobody has gotten a right to it by paying money to somebody who claimed to have a right to it! The whole libertarian argument about property rights flounders on this point: at least part of the value of any object is due to the (non-humanly-created) raw materials in it, so nobody could ever "earn" a property right to it. Property rights are at best a convenient legal fiction, with tenuous ethical basis. I favor efficient economies, but as far as I'm concerned, the hard- line free marketeers can go soak their heads. The aspiring iconoclast is back!