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From: wm@tekchips.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.followup
Subject: Re: the censored (sic) hacker
Message-ID: <805@tekchips.UUCP>
Date: Sat, 19-May-84 16:29:24 EDT
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Posted: Sat May 19 16:29:24 1984
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An interesting situation for UNC.  I believe that UNC has the
right to restrict people's access to the net from UNC accounts,
for the very reason that when you submit to the net from a site,
you are taken as a representative of that site.  When you abuse
that right, it can cause other people at that site embarassment.
Some people mention how other students at UNC were quick to
"turn Tim in".  There might be a reason for this.

I'm surprised at how quick people are to jump on the faculty at
UNC.  They do not owe Tim a job there.  They offered him one, on
the condition that he would not post to the net.  I've seen the
postings that got him in trouble, and frankly, I can't blame them.
>From his own side of the story, it seems obvious that he tried
to push the limits every way he could, even when they were about
to restore his priveleges.  If in the end, the faculty at UNC
acted with less than ultimate patience, who can blame them?

I'm sure you will never hear UNC's side of this story, and for
good reason.  So stop judging the situation.

I think Tim Maroney is smart and has done some interesting
work.  I just wish he would grow up.

				Wm Leler
				formerly at UNC.