Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utcsrgv.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsrgv!dave From: dave@utcsrgv.UUCP (Dave Sherman) Newsgroups: net.followup Subject: Re: Tim Maroney Message-ID: <4373@utcsrgv.UUCP> Date: Tue, 22-May-84 16:18:40 EDT Article-I.D.: utcsrgv.4373 Posted: Tue May 22 16:18:40 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 22-May-84 19:26:18 EDT References: <805@tekchips.UUCP> Organization: The Law Society of Upper Canada, Toronto Lines: 40 "I'm sure you will never hear UNC's side of this story, and for good reason." -- Wm Leler Why not? Whether Tim was right or wrong, he has presented a case to the public in which there is an indication that UNC faculty may have discriminated on the basis of religion. UNC does not have to justify itself to the net; but if UNC does not come forward with any explanation it leaves people assuming they have no defense. If UNC does have another "side of the story", why not present it to the net? What we are all witnessing is a tremendous experiment in the jury system - trial by one's peers - which is one of the cornerstones of our society. There will be no vote (unless someone posts a survey); but we, as a collective jury, are discussing the case and will draw conclusions about both Tim and the UNC faculty in question. From what I have seen so far I side with Tim. I did not see any explanation in the long correspondence which would justify UNC's ban on his postings. Given the context in which the net operates and the scope of his postings, I do not believe for a moment that anyone thought he spoke for the university. As to the money question: it has been pointed out that Tim cost the net a lot of money. Indeed he did. If the net chose to vote against his posting anything, on the grounds that it was costing all sites too much, that would be one thing. But for UNC to claim he was costing them money when his postings were transmitted to mcnc by local phone call is ludicrous. I look forward to seeing Tim's contributions from wherever he is now. I assume he would not have taken a new position (someone mentioned Pittsburgh) without making sure he had access to the net. Dave Sherman Toronto -- dave at Toronto (CSnet) {allegra,cornell,decvax,ihnp4,linus,utzoo}!utcsrgv!dave