Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 (Tek) 9/26/83; site shark.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!harpo!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!tektronix!orca!shark!davew From: davew@shark.UUCP Newsgroups: net.followup Subject: Re: Use of national characters in names Message-ID: <772@shark.UUCP> Date: Mon, 21-May-84 10:10:59 EDT Article-I.D.: shark.772 Posted: Mon May 21 10:10:59 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 26-May-84 12:28:36 EDT References: <408@erix.UUCP> Organization: Tektronix, Wilsonville OR Lines: 28 Goran brings up a problem that really has not been addressed yet by the Unix community. What do you do when you need to design a keyboard for a language that uses a character set greater than English. In many applications the ASCII codes are stolen from symbols such as: #, $, @, [, ], {, }, \, |, and/or ~. All these symbols have important functions in Unix, C or file editors such as ed, ex or vi. The user who wishes to use his national language is faced with a problem. If he/she uses a keyboard designed for his/her language all the commands and code using the above symbols must be transformed into the character that has replaced them. When using the net spelling must be transliterated so that a name like Bj(../o)rn does not show up as Bj|rn. One way around this is to have a keyboard that could be shifted in and out of the extended character set so that both extra characters and the standard symbols could be used. The news network would have to detect if the keyboard were shifted in or out of the extended mode. What seems to be required is some sort of standard to accomplish this. Without this ability I feel Unix will meet with a lot of resistance to its usage in Europe, particularly among the business and governmental communities. Any other thoughts on the subject out there? Dave Williams Tektronix, Inc. ECS (Unix is a trademark of Bell Laboratories.)