Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihnss.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!mgnetp!ihnp4!ihnss!warren From: warren@ihnss.UUCP (Warren Montgomery) Newsgroups: net.followup,net.women Subject: Re: Women, Insurance, and everything Message-ID: <2078@ihnss.UUCP> Date: Thu, 24-May-84 09:36:31 EDT Article-I.D.: ihnss.2078 Posted: Thu May 24 09:36:31 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 26-May-84 13:28:27 EDT References: <1034@vax2.fluke.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 28 This really ought to be going to net.legal or net.politics. I don't see any really good solutions to "discrimination" in insurance and pensions. Any economic transaction in which the value received is not a direct function of the price payed is going to be unfair to somebody, at least in their definition of unfair, and all forms of insurance and most pension and other employee benefits plans fall into this category. We can try to adjust it so statistically everybodies expected returns are equitable, however without being able to predict the future, the results will never be equitable. It will be interesting to see what our legal system does with this one, but don't expect a solution that everyone will be happy with. The problem with debates like this and even the equal pay for equal work argument is that they lead people to believe that these are the only reasons for the statistics on low pay for women. Survey after survey turns up data that show that in the same job with the same qualifications, the pay and advancement opportunities for a woman are still significantly less than for a man. This is a real problem that can be addressed without any debate over statistics or over equal worth, and we don't seem to be doing all that great a job at it. -- Warren Montgomery ihnss!warren IH x2494