Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83 based; site hound.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!houxm!hound!rfg From: rfg@hound.UUCP (R.GRANTGES) Newsgroups: net.followup Subject: Re: Fraudulent use of AT&T Calling Cards Message-ID: <502@hound.UUCP> Date: Fri, 25-May-84 09:47:30 EDT Article-I.D.: hound.502 Posted: Fri May 25 09:47:30 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 31-May-84 20:17:59 EDT References: <3004@brl-tgr.ARPA> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 31 [] Mr. Martin: Since I have nothing whatever to do with Calling Card Service (well, almost nothing) I feel free to reply to your flame. You seem to feel strongly that while $1 million is too much to charge little old ladys, it is perfectly allright, even imperative, that they be charged their choice of $100, $200, ... or whatever, whenever their calling card number is used fraudently. I guess I don't see that as any solution. Let me assure you that , in the past and even today, to accomplish what you suggest would not be nearly as simple as 'writng a few lines of code.' In fact it would have been very difficult and expensive to do so. Changes are taking place in the AT&T-Communications network (i.e., "Long Distance") which at some time in the future may make something like what you propose feasible at modest cost. However, I am not aware that there is a perception within the business that this needs to be done, let alone done with alacrity. Of course, there is no reason for me to be aware as it is not my responsibility. Perhaps someone closer to that sort of thing will reply to you. Lacking that, I suggest you continue your efforts to raise consciousness. One way to do that is to spread your own number around sleazy motels and try to become a statistic. Since you are on the net, there is a good chance you went to one of the many schools whose campus papers felt it obligatory to instruct their readers in how to get free calls using Ma Bell's calling card numbers. I'm sure you wrote letters to the editor opposing their actions. I'll bet you did. It seems everyone wants to beat the system, or the company, or Ma Bell (they succeeded there), but no one likes the idea of hitting the little old ladies. Dick Grantges hound!rfg