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From: dak@ihuxn.UUCP (Dave Krunnfusz)
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Subject: Re: On unc!tim: You don't *know* that!
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Date: Fri, 25-May-84 11:25:36 EDT
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Posted: Fri May 25 11:25:36 1984
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It seems to me that Tim took a job with a set of rules associated
with it and then chose to ignore the rules.  No one forced him
to take the job.  The rules may have been contrary to what one
would expect from a public institution, but they were there from
the beginning.  If Tim had a problem with them, it should have
been dealt with BEFORE he took the job.  When one takes a job,
one implicitly agrees to live within the guideslines set forth
with the offer of work.

As far as Tim presenting an unbiased opinion of the situation,
it's not clear to me that this is true.  As an example,
he cites the John Hobson case as another example of censorship
(read the last few articles of part 5 of this statement).  He
implies that it is censorship that *killed* John Hobson.  I find
this funny since in the article from John Hobson himself, he
admits to spending so much time on the net that it was interfering
with his work.  That's not censorship.  I work in the same lab
as John did.  Many people use the net in this lab. It is OK as long
as they get their job done.  When it begins to interfere with work,
it is NOT OK!  To represent this case as censorship greatly reduced
the credibility of the rest of Tim's articles.  

The point is that I believe Tim did not know anything about
John Hobson's situation except for what he read on the net. 
He misinterpreted it and misrepresented it.  Most of us out here 
know nothing about Tim's situation except what we read on the net. 
We know nothing about any extenuating circumstances. Any rash
judgements about Tim or UNC are at best unfounded and at worst
could be 180 degrees off the mark.

Dave K.
he accep