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From: barry@ames-lm.UUCP (Kenn Barry)
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Subject: Re: On unc!tim: You don't *know* that!
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Date: Fri, 25-May-84 19:09:34 EDT
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	Oh, come on!!  What is this 'we can't *know* that' nonsense?
Friends, we can't even *know* that the sun will rise tomorrow, until
it does. So what? We do for unc!tim what we do everywhere else - we form
reasonable assumptions based on the evidence. The evidence in this case
is the published correspondence between unc!tim and various UNC officials.
It is clearly implied in these postings that they constitute a complete
record of the relevant correspondence. No, we don't *know* that it really
is complete and impartial, nor do we *know* that there are no other important
facets of the case that were never discussed in correspondence. Big deal.
It remains true that both sides are free to air their views on the matter
in this net. Messrs Brooks et al have so far chosen not to do so. Their
business. Like a court, my opinions are willing to take evidence from
all sides, but they decide on the basis of evidence received. That evidence,
as far as I can see, strongly favors unc!tim's contention that he is
a victim of censorship, in the moral if not the legal sense.
	Isn't that terrible of me? By daring to have an opinion on something
that is not a tautology, I'm taking the risk of being *wrong*! Horrors!
	Fortunately for my peace of mind, I realize that my opinions
are only that, opinions. *Unlike* a court of law, my opinions carry no
weight. Unlike a court of law, I can easily change my mind at any time,
if the facts warrant it, with no harm done to anyone.
	I do not know unc!tim, and don't recall any of his postings,
though I do recall that he's been a frequent contributor. I've been following
this discussion because I'm interested in other's opinions on what happened,
and hopeful that more actual information on what happened might be posted
(by UNC administrators, for instance). I do not find being told I have
no right to an opinion a useful addition to the discussion.

        [The opinions expressed herein are my own foolishness, and do not
necessarily reflect the views of anyone that matters.]

                                                Kenn Barry
                                                NASA-Ames Research Center
                                                Moffett Field, CA
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