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From: steven@qubix.UUCP (Steven Maurer)
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Subject: Time in AD&D
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Date: Tue, 29-May-84 12:17:39 EDT
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Posted: Tue May 29 12:17:39 1984
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	Well now, I have managed to borrow that old dumb book,
    "AD&D Players Handbook", and am finally able to respond to
    the person who made the various personal attacks on me a
    little while ago.

	STRICTLY SPEAKING, these are the casting times for 
    various popular spells.  Instead of dealing in "segments"
    and "rounds", I will instead compare the casting times to
    the number of attacks a fighter would get before the spell
    would go off.  REMEMBER that if a MU or Cleric is injured
    during the spell casting time, then the spell stops.

	Spell              Casting time       Effect time
------------------------------------------------------

Cleric Spells:
	Cure Light Wounds    5 attacks        perm.
	Sanctuary            4 attacks        30+ attacks
	Bless               10 attacks        60 attacks
	Hold Person          5 attacks        50+ attacks
	Speak With Animals   5 attacks        20+ attacks
	Dispel Magic         6 attacks        Perm.
	Prayer               6 attacks        40+ attacks
	Cure Serious Wounds  7 attacks        Perm.
	Neutralize Poison    7 attacks        Perm.
	Protection From Evil 7 attacks        1000+ attacks

MU Spells:

	Sleep                1 attack         50+ attacks
	Invisibility         2 attacks        Perm. until attacks
	Web                  2 attacks        60+ attacks
	Fire Ball            3 attacks        Instant
	Gust of Wind         3 attacks        Instant
	Haste                3 attacks        60+ attacks
	Suggestion           3 attacks        240+ attacks
	Charm Monster        4 attacks        Until save made
	Enchanted Weapon +1  10 attacks       35+ attacks

===============

	Now, as you can see, it does appear that any moderate level
    fighter or monster will be able to chop up a MU/Cleric with no
    problem, IF TIME IS COUNTED.    But, of course, it is not.  For
    all you AD&D players out there, ask yourself when was the last
    time you had to wait 5 segments (attacks) before the Cure Light
    Wounds on your character took effect??

	I stand by my eariler statement, that in AD&D, spell casting
    time is almost completely ignored by most DM's.  And, in addition,
    that this is the fault of the system.

    Steven Maurer