Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ccieng5.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!hao!seismo!rochester!ritcv!ccieng5!jbf From: jbf@ccieng5.UUCP (Jens Bernhard Fiederer) Newsgroups: net.jokes.d Subject: Re: "Offensive" jokes, minorities, real men, &c. Message-ID: <426@ccieng5.UUCP> Date: Sun, 6-May-84 20:05:13 EDT Article-I.D.: ccieng5.426 Posted: Sun May 6 20:05:13 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 9-May-84 03:27:52 EDT References: <1439@dartvax.UUCP> Organization: CCI Central Engineering, Rochester, NY Lines: 21 I, too, don't believe that ethnics, or supporters of ethnics, need be offended by jokes that exploit stereotypes. The jokes, by their absurdity, mock the stereotypes themselves much more than the ethnic groups. The trouble with the jokes is that you can't identify the stereotypes. A rich stereotype such as the East-Frisian (my sister was born in East Frisia -- East Frisians are supposed to eat grass and be the most violent and stupid people in Germany, and damn proud of it!) or the Swabians (my personal ethnic group: the Swabians couldn't figure out how to get a log through a door by reorienting it). At any rate, I can enjoy jokes about ethnic groups without harboring any hostility toward that group (such as my own). While they can be told in an offensive way, the jokes themselves are acceptable. Nasreddin Hodja -- "Some people are eccentric, but I am just plain odd" Reachable as ....allegra![rayssd,rlgvax]!ccieng5!jbf