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From: rtf@ihuxw.UUCP (sparrow)
Newsgroups: net.misc,net.legal
Subject: Re: Password hacker gets probation (& other electronic crimes)
Message-ID: <822@ihuxw.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 2-May-84 09:23:45 EDT
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Posted: Wed May  2 09:23:45 1984
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Bob Fishell states:

   Computer security may be a matter for the law, but in my opinion,
   any organization that is too stupid, lazy, or cheap to implement
   effective security measures deserves to get their passwords hacked.

Is this for real????  Using the same logic I could say that anyone
who is too stupid, lazy or cheap to implement effective security
measures on their [house|car|person] deserves to have same be
[destroyed|stolen|mugged|raped] by some ambitious criminal.  Maybe
I am old fashioned but I think humans have a right to expect that
their property and privacy be respected and anyone who violates this
is a criminal.  And who is to decide what is effective measures??
To a professional jewel thief who can break any alarm system there
are no effectives measures.  Does this give them the right to try
to steal any jewels they please??  

I disagree with Bob.  I think the hacker getting probation got
nothing more than a slap on the wrists.  I don't see a big 
difference between picking a lock and breaking a computer security
system.  It's called 'breaking and entering' and should be 
treated as a felony.  Just because computers are your profession
doesn't give you special privileges over those who are simply
users with average intelligence.

					sparrow