Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihuxq.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!ihuxq!ken From: ken@ihuxq.UUCP (ken perlow) Newsgroups: net.legal Subject: Re: Mortgages Message-ID: <926@ihuxq.UUCP> Date: Tue, 15-May-84 00:43:49 EDT Article-I.D.: ihuxq.926 Posted: Tue May 15 00:43:49 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 9-May-84 07:36:57 EDT References: <649@ihuxb.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 46 -- >> Is it legal to do the following when buying a house. >> The buyer and seller agree at a price of $50,000 (for instance). >> The buyer needs to come up with 10,000 for down payment/points/etc. >> but only has 5,000. Can the seller give(lend or whatever you want to >> call it) the buyer 5,000 to meet the down payment and sell the house >> for 55,000?? The mortgage would be higher but the buyer can get the >> house with out a lot of down payment money. (the seller would recoupe >> the 5,000 when the buyer would get the loan.) Is this legal and if >> so what problems can crop up?? The problem is getting financing. When you get a mortgage, most banks require you to tell them whether you will borrow any of your down payment. Your answer, unless you are worth millions, only just now happen to be, ah, a little cash-short, will probably make a big difference in their answer. Also, the seller doesn't see your down payment, only the bank does. It just pays the seller (and/or yet another bank that holds the seller's mortgage). Now, you could work out a very under-the-table deal on that $5000. That's fraud, of course. Why $10,000? There used to be FHA loans available for 90%, even 95% of purchase price. Check with a mortgage company. Will the seller offer a land contract? (That's where the seller offers the financing for some period, after which the rest is paid or seller gets the house back.) A 3 to 5 year LC should put you in the driver's seat in a rising real estate market, as when the contract comes due, although you'll have paid down only a few bucks of the principal, the house will have appreciated to the point that the ratio of (what you must pay off)/(what it's worth) will be small enough that a bank should lend you the money. Never take a LC less than 3 years. But why do it alone? Find 1 or more persons in the same straits, and you'll have the money you need. I ran a housing co-operative back before I sold out, got a more communal lifestyle in my blood, but you can co-buy 2 and 3 unit buildings, or a large house you can convert to apartments, and live your piece of the American dream by yourself. As Mr. Spock himself said, "There are always options." -- *** *** JE MAINTIENDRAI ***** ***** ****** ****** 08 May 84 [19 Floreal An CXCII] ken perlow ***** ***** (312)979-7261 ** ** ** ** ..ihnp4!ihuxq!ken *** ***