Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site amd70.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!floyd!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!amd70!phil From: phil@amd70.UUCP (Phil Ngai) Newsgroups: net.micro,net.arch Subject: Re: net.digital: low overhead refresh controller? Message-ID: <4691@amd70.UUCP> Date: Thu, 31-May-84 22:01:40 EDT Article-I.D.: amd70.4691 Posted: Thu May 31 22:01:40 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 2-Jun-84 11:48:15 EDT References: <1179@sun.uucp> Organization: AMD, Santa Clara, CA Lines: 15 This is an attractive idea because the refresh overhead is real and noticable. It is complicated by multiple banks of memory (the banks which are not accessed are still eligible for refreshing). The idea of using a refresh controller per bank sounds expensive in $ and board space. Because of the large number of pins (18 address in, 9 address out, plus control, power and ground) you're probably going to need a 40 pin DIP. I am assuming you mean to put the entire DRAM control in one chip. If you want to let another chip do your muxing then you'd need fewer pins. Maybe even let the address pins be I/O and only need 9. It is an interesting idea. Maybe a good project for someone in a LSI design class, or a first CMOS gate array. -- Phil Ngai (408) 749-5286 {ucbvax,decwrl,ihnp4,allegra,intelca}!amd70!phil